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NEWS: Live-Action English-Language Lone Wolf And Cub Film Planned in 2017


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Lemonchest



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:18 am Reply with quote
I'm guessing they'll just remake Shogun Assassin? I'm alright with that.
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kuzronk



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:25 am Reply with quote
I can't have any hope for ghost in the shell anymore since the producer did baby geniuses,Bratz and ghost rider.
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Utsuro no Hako



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:50 am Reply with quote
"Essentially Japanese" = "Hey, the Raid was essentially a Japanese film, right? Let's cast those guys."
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AiddonValentine



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:50 am Reply with quote
Er, we already got an American Lone Wolf and Cub. It was called Road to Perdition
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:05 am Reply with quote
AiddonValentine wrote:
Er, we already got an American Lone Wolf and Cub. It was called Road to Perdition


Couldn't have said it better myself.
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jdnation



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 12:56 pm Reply with quote
AiddonValentine wrote:
Er, we already got an American Lone Wolf and Cub. It was called Road to Perdition


I believe they mean that this time they will have an authentic adaptation and an Asian cast.

Whereas other works could be adapted to a different setting and recast the ethnicities, Lone Wolf & Cub is specifically a Japanese historical-era story that wouldn't make any sense in any other setting.

Of course a samurai epic is largely expected to have Asian cast members so it's par for the course.
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Beatdigga



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:45 pm Reply with quote
[quote="AiddonValentine"]Er, we already got an American Lone Wolf and Cub. It was called Road to Perdition[/quote

Beat me to it.
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doomydoomdoom



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:15 pm Reply with quote
Besides a Road to Perdition quip, I'd like to add that there's nothing they can do that will top or compete with the 70s movies, so this is a rather pointless exercise.
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Themaster20000



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 6:25 pm Reply with quote
I'll just wait for the strongly hinted Criterion release of the original films.
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CCTakato



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:16 pm Reply with quote
So they couldn't have an Asian actress for GITS because "OMG the movie will suck unless white people are in it!" or whatever reason it is anime nerds use to defend it, but somehow it's ok to have an all Japanese cast in this movie? How are the GITS live action apologists going to explain this contradiction in logic?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:02 pm Reply with quote
Hopefully we get all-Asian. Not white passing...
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:35 pm Reply with quote
Depends on how much it'd cost for production.

If production won't cost that much, then there shouldn't be much issue using unknown Asian actors.

It's when a production is expected to skyrocket like cost $100M or more, that's when investors become nervous and want extra reassurances that they'd get their big investments back and won't lose their shirts over this. That's when the production has to use renowned actors in order for the investors to even give them the money to begin with -- no big names, no big funding.
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kuzronk



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:43 pm Reply with quote
Ghost in the shell does have Asian actors in it though and the major isn't Asian. It makes sense to hire Scarlett Johansson as the lead since she is a major female action star that can easily make a movie successful like Lucy.
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 6:02 am Reply with quote
Interestingly, this just came out:

Asian actors too busy to fret over Hollywood 'white-washing'

  • While hurt, irritated or dumb-founded perhaps about the so-called “white-washing” syndrome, performers here [in Asia] aren’t expressing the level of outrage of Margaret Cho, George Takei or other Americans, The Associated Press has found.

    Many shrugged off the phenomenon as inevitable, given commercial marketability needs, noting Asian films also cast well-known actors over and over.


    Kaori Momoi, who appeared in Memoirs of a Geisha, as well as Russian filmmaker Aleksandr Sokurov’s The Sun, suggested acting was ultimately about individual talent, not skin color or nationality.

    Momoi praised the devotion, skill and professionalism of Scarlett Johansson, whose starring in Ghost in the Shell, based on a Japanese manga, has stirred up an uproar as a prime example of “white-washing.” Momoi played the mother of Johansson’s character.

    “I felt blessed to have worked with her,” she said, urging actors to be selective of the directors they choose to work with. “And so what’s fantastic is fantastic. What fails just fails.”


    Vijay Varma, an Indian actor who starred in Monsoon Shootout, a crime story with multiple endings that was shown at the Cannes Film Festival, pointed out insularity was prevalent in Bollywood as well.

    Families dominate the business, although he was an exception and came from a family unrelated to movies. Bollywood counts on mass appeal, casting the “familiar,” just like Hollywood, he added.


    While some Japanese may wonder why Chinese actress Zhang Ziyi is the heroine in Memoirs of a Geisha, they also feel no qualms routinely casting Japanese to play Chinese and other non-Japanese Asian roles, feigning embarrassingly phony accents and mannerisms.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:35 am Reply with quote
This sounds like they are honoring the original manga with actual Japanese actors and actresses but having them speak English. I think they should do this film in Japanese then dub it using good voice actors (not the celebrity kind but the ones who regularly do anime dubs).
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